Transferring projects from laptop to SD card for use in MRS8

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Transferring projects from laptop to SD card for use in MRS8

Post by deangray » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:01 am

Hi,fellow Zoomers! I'm hoping someone out there can help me with this one;I was mixing down a project to the final Master track using my trusty ol' MRS8 when the card ran out of space-Aagh! OK,I know I was dumb because I was using a 128mb SD card only,but I did a lot more 'Bouncing' then I originally meant to.So,if I send the project as it is to my laptop,can I then transfer it to a larger capacity card so that I can then put the new bigger SD card in the MRS8 & carry on with the project? Hope this makes sense! Thanks for any info,cheers,Dean.
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Re: Transferring projects from laptop to SD card for use in MRS8

Post by Jim_Fogle » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:36 pm

The MRS-8 does everything in ram and writes to the SD card (I call it a ram dump) as needed.

If you haven't turned the MRS-8 off yet (yeah right, I know) then you should use the MRS-8 card utilities to copy the project from the existing card to a new card; however I realize that is doubtful.

More likely you've turned the MRS-8 off. If so, remove the card from the MRS-8 and copy the complete card to your computer for file safekeeping.

You mentioned transferring the data to a larger capacity card. Be aware, the MRS-8 CAN NOT use SD cards larger than 1 GB (one gigabyte). 2 or 4 gigabyte SD cards may appear to work but over time your files will become corrupted. The good news is the MRS-8 doesn't not seem to care about who made the card, or the card speed; as long as the capacity is between 16 MB to 1 GB the card should work.

The MRS-8 card format is slightly different than a pc format so use the MRS-8 format utility to format your larger capacity card.

Now that all of that is out of the way, On the pc I would make a duplicate of the project folder and contents. Copy the duplicate folder and original card root directory contents to a different card. Make sure the project folder name is the same between the original folder and duplicate folder. Insert the different card into the MRS-8 and apply power. The MRS-8 will read the root directory then try to load the tracks inside the project folder. If it loads, great.
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Re: Transferring projects from laptop to SD card for use in MRS8

Post by deangray » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:21 am

Thanks for that,Jim.I'll try things again based on your advice.One thing though-I don't understand how I could I could copy to a new SD card whilst actually in my MRS 8-There's only one card slot! Oh,I know about the 1GB limit in the machine-that's why I was so stupid not to have used one from the beginning! D-oh!
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Post by deangray » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:45 pm

Oops! Just realised that is was Jedi,and not Jim! So sorry about that,Jedi!
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Re: Transferring projects from laptop to SD card for use in MRS8

Post by Jim_Fogle » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:30 pm

Dean,

You will need to remove the full SD card from the MRS-8 then install the removed card into a SD card reader.

Then you plug the SD card reader into a computer USB port. The card reader may show up on your computer as a device but the SD card will be identified as mass memory and will be assigned a drive letter.

Create a new folder then copy the contents of the SD card drive letter into the new folder.
Everything you do from this point on should be to the copied content, not the original SD card.

I hope that explains what I meant a little better. Sorry I was not clear enough in my first post.

And Jim is fine. The jedi moniker under my name is related to how many posts a forum member has made. Your moniker presently is "new to this board". Once you have made a few more posts, your moniker will change to something else.
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Re: Transferring projects from laptop to SD card for use in MRS8

Post by deangray » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:38 pm

Hi,Jim,
Well,I must have misunderstood something! I right-clicked on the SD card & copied both files present (SYS & PROJ000) to my laptop & then to the new 1GB card.Before I sent it to the new card,I renamed it with the original project title.However,when I inserted the new card in my MRS8,the renamed project didn't show up,just (PROJ000).I tried just sending the project on the card & also with the (SYS) file transferred onto the card-No luck! However,the original Project file is ON the card,because of the space used on it.It's just not showing up on the MRS8.Any idea what I've done wrong? Thanks!
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Re: Transferring projects from laptop to SD card for use in MRS8

Post by Jim_Fogle » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:45 pm

Dean,

I'm not sure what you did. Have you looked at the bottom of page 142 and top of page 143 of the MRS-8 user manual to better understand what files are what?

There are two types of MRS-8 Folders on the SD card:

First there is the system folder that is named "SYS".
The "SYS" folder contains the system-related files, MACPRM.ZIF, SEQPLY.LST and SYSTEM.BIN.
MACPRM.ZIF - Stores the number of the most recently edited project
SEQPLY.LST - Stores play list data
SYSTEM.BIN - Stores common settings between projects on the card

Then there is a project folder for each song. Project folders is named PROJxxx where xxx are numbers 000-999 for the project number. Each project folder contains PRJDATA.ZIF, RHYTHM.SEQ and TRACKx_y.ZAF project files.
PRJDATA.ZIF stores the settings for marker, track parameter and effect.
RHYTHM.SEQ stores the rhythm pattern/rhythm song data
TRACKx_y.ZAF stores audio data for each track or V-take. x corresponds to a number 0-7 that equals the track number 1-8. y corresponds to a number 0-9 that equals V-take number 1-10.

* Do not change the file names using a conventional SD card reader/writer. If the files have different names, they will not be recognized on the MRS-8.

Does that help?
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Re: Transferring projects from laptop to SD card for use in MRS8

Post by deangray » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:26 am

Hi,there,Jim-Well,after many attempts-This morning I DID IT! I ended up re-naming the project simply as (1),and transferring that to the new SD card,without the SYS file,which was already on the new card after formatting it,and it worked.Hopefully,though,I won't need to do it again,because I learned 2 lessons here-1)How to transfer my existing project to a new SD card & 2) NEVER use an SD card with only 128 Mb capacity! Thanks so much for your help,Jim,I couldn't have done it without you,all the best,Dean.
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Re: Transferring projects from laptop to SD card for use in MRS8

Post by Jim_Fogle » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:44 pm

Dean,

I VERY glad to read you successfully transferred the files from the 128 MB SD card to another card. GREAT news and I'm glad for you.
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