HMHS 142 - Now Dave Free (Kind of) 12/17/08

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Post by Drew » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:16 am

Just wanted to pop by and say thanks for the great show guys. I listen to you every week. I actually listen before I go to bed so I sleep through some of the show but will listen to the rest the following night. I also wanted to echo my love for the killers. I really seem to have a similar taste in music to you guys (I know Dave doesn't have much love for the killers but I do dig Death Cab too). I am really glad you guys aren't like most crabby home recorders whose love for music doesn't extend beyond the 70s and Dark Side of the Moon.
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Post by Drew » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:21 am

Forgot to give you props for "5 Rooksby books"!!!
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Post by criddlerus » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:23 am

Gu Djin wrote:Jesse Harris on song writing. youube.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qXfzBlayh1Q
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Very nice! I had no idea about all the songwriter interviews on You Tube. Ahhh, You Tube - obliterater of all spare songwriting time. ;)

Thanks for the link and thanks for the tip Cracks. Now who is Jesse Harris? Maybe we can start a thread of other favorite interviews.

Thanks for the new posters this week. We really appreciate you popping in!

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Post by Gu Djin » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:04 am

Jesse Harris wrote a number of songs recorded by Norah Jones amongst others.

"Don't know why",
"I've got to see you again"
"Shoot the moon"
"One flight down ",
"The long day is over" with Norah Jones.

Off the top of my head, there are plenty more.

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Post by Drew » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:41 am

Yeah, I am glad you guys weren't totally Dave Free. Criddle is such an integral part of the show. The constrast and balance between his personality and Tonys makes it great.
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Post by criddlerus » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:05 pm

Drew wrote:Yeah, I am glad you guys weren't totally Dave Free. Criddle is such an integral part of the show. The constrast and balance between his personality and Tonys makes it great.
Ohhhh, that one is just begging for a snarky remark but I will refrain. It is Tony's show after all and we love the surly one.

Thanks for the compliment. In truth, it is just nice to have two people to do the show. I don't know how Tony talked to himself for so long. ;)

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Post by Zoetrope » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:10 am

Omegaman wrote:over the years his lyrical style has changed, from the long and involved detail oriented story songs to the more pop flavored, and simple. It leaves more open for listener interpretation.
The more I think back on the song, the more I feel like he left it too vague, too wide open. I can picture Osama Bin Laden whistling along in his cave while working on his next dream. A song can be open to interpretation without being open any interpretation. The whistling part feels almost like, "insert your situation here." Ultimately, the song leaves no lasting image, just the vague idea of someone working on his dream, which pretty much describes anyone.

Maybe we should have a Vague Lyrics contest to see who can make the most broadly applicable song. Here's my start on one, I call it, "I'm breathing in and out"

My heart is pumping and there's blood in my veins
Sometimes I feel good, sometimes I have pain
I'm breathing in and out . . . I'm breathing in and out
[whistling, interspersed with heavy breathing sound, but not porn movie heavy breathing--a more generic type of breathing]
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Post by tonyoci » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:29 pm

Drew wrote:Just wanted to pop by and say thanks for the great show guys. I listen to you every week. I actually listen before I go to bed so I sleep through some of the show but will listen to the rest the following night. I also wanted to echo my love for the killers. I really seem to have a similar taste in music to you guys (I know Dave doesn't have much love for the killers but I do dig Death Cab too). I am really glad you guys aren't like most crabby home recorders whose love for music doesn't extend beyond the 70s and Dark Side of the Moon.
Thanks man, I'm only really into new music. My iPod is constantly on shuffle play of all the music I've had in the last 6 months or less. I'm the opposite crabby, I will almost never listen to old music when there is so much new stuff to hear.

I also feel this song is way to vague (I once failed an english exam for brain farting and mixing up vague with vivid. So my vivid explanation was very vague.
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Post by famouspatrick » Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:53 am

Where's Famous? Once again, I am a week (or two) late and a dollar short. No excuses; I listen to the show, take notes, and then don't post them. It's kind of like writing a check for the utility bill and leaving it on the table and not mailing it in. You only realize it when the lights go out. Anyway, it's the day after Xmas and I'm posting for the "Daves" show and the "Dave-less" show. Merry merry and happy happy to you all.

12 Hits of Christmas: Duuuuude! If I did 12 hits, I'd be out cold! Seriously, I loved it. I was smiling all the way through. Made my drive to work much more enjoyable.

Jenine - Brian Plamondon: Well arranged harmonies, nice bouncy pop tune with a country flavor; good one.

Capturing song ideas: So far, I have found that the simpler the device is to use, the worse the sound is. John Lennon used one of those cheap cassette recorders with the big piano keys. I have tried a lot of stuff, but I've found the "note taking" style digital recorders or micro cassettes are the easiest to use and get good enough quality that you can hear the instrument and vocal well enough so that you can re-record it on your good equipment. One button to push and you're recording, and after a couple of tries you find the right placement. For $50.00 US, you can get a decent digital recorder that will go for a hundred hours or more on a set of batteries. I use a Sony ICD-P620 that I got on sale for $40.00 US.

Collaborating with the other listeners: I always feel like I would be imposing on people if I asked them to help. I know everyone's time is precious, so I would feel awkward asking.

Doubling vocals with others: Brian May said that Queen would have all of the members sing each of the parts on most songs. All four would sing the first part, then the second and so forth. You have to admit, it worked good for them!

The Killers: They must be making the rounds; they're also in Mix magazine this month.

Lou - Sucrepop: I like the spare arrangement on this one. I'd also like to see a translation of the lyrics. Very enjoyable.

Rosies Lullaby - Lee Wright: Nicely done, maybe a bit too much reverb for me. Good one.

Rhyming book exerpt: It was bit difficult to follow without having a chart, but I got it easily enough, being a P. Pattison reader. I have found using family rhymes to be quite liberating. I always felt like I was cheating when I didn't use perfect rhymes, but I can see now that my songs are better served by using the near rhymes.

Working on a Dream: I am unimpressed, and I tend to like Springsteen. I like the spare arrangement; my usual criticism of the Boss is that his songs are too junky, too busy. This song sounds like he is going for a Woody Guthrie type song about workingmen, but then he keeps going into how "love" will make it better. Thumbs down, Mr. Springsteen.

Looking for Jeannie - The Morrisons: I liked the overall sound of the song, and I liked the lyrics (those I could make out), but the verse and the chorus didn't seem to be from the same song. What did one have to do with the other?

You left me smiling again, guys. Happy Holidays to all!

Looking forward to the next show.
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Post by sucrepop » Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:25 pm

Hi from France (not Belgium)
Many thanks for your kind comments about Lou. I know you're usually don't listen to french songs, so i appreciate you took the time to do it.
Its an old song of mine so the sound quality isn't so good, i learn slowly with the time.
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Post by Joe Mac » Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:32 am

Hi Guys

At last, I've been able to get on to the computer to do a post(my two teenage kids monopolise it). I want to say a big THANK YOU to Dave & Tony for the great show!
Many years ago I used to record on loads of songs on a Yamaha MT120 4 track, but then decided to get a computer and found myself getting bogged down in which audio interface, which plug in, which programme,do I need more RAM, blah de blah de blah......................and forgot all about what was important.
Then you guys reminded me, it's about the songs, it's about the music, it's about siting down plugging the guitar in, hitting record and going for it. So many thanks guys for rescuing me from a technical Hell. I'm back writing songs and recording them after many years of farting about with computer stuff. I actually still use the MT120 as a sketchpad to quickly capture ideas and then record them on Mixcraft.
I love the show, the banter is great, it's good to hear new artists(some of them are amazing!),and the tips and tricks you guys pass on without getting too technical are a godsend.

In the New Year I'll try and send in a song from time to time,

A very Happy New Year to Dave , Tony and all the HMHS gang.

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Post by Rocles » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:20 pm

Hi folks,
terrific show as always. I wanted to comment on a couple of topics -

Collaborations...I think its been mentioned before on here, but there's a great Free site called Kompoz that works very well. Just Register, and upload whatever you want track-wise...any other Member can then add Bass/Guitar/Vox whatever. You can also set up a Private group on there. Its at -

http://www.kompoz.com/compose-collaborate/home.music

Regarding Tony's comments about capturing ideas as you play, the new Line 6 Backtrack looks tempting...see -

http://line6.com/backtrack/

cheers,
Les
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Post by Zoetrope » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:23 am

Never one to shy away from beating a dead horse, I was reading my recently arrived copy of "Writing Better Lyrics" and came across this, which seemed to sum up my feelings on the Springstein song:
A song should be universal, but don't mistake universal for generic. Sense-bound is universal. When you stimulate your listeners' senses, they pick pictures from their own personal sense files. When you use generic language, they fall asleep.
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Post by RobertLeeHall » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:18 pm

Hi Guys,

It's been awhile since my last post. As always... I really like listening to the Homemade Hitshow.
All the the songs were very good. Even the one I didnt unstand a word of it, but it too was good.

I really like the tips you give on your show. The rhyming tips will come in very handy! I would love to hear
more of these tips.

Jenine - Brian Plamondon
Very nice production. I liked the flowing bass. I too am guilty of wanting to make changes after I think a song is completed.

Lou - Sucrepop
Nice vibe with a classy jazzy overtone! I can hear the infuence of "Riders on the storm".

Rosies Lullaby - Lee Wright
Enjoyed the tonal quality of the panned guitars. Nice clean track.

Looking for Jeannie - The Morrisons
Wonderful full production sound. Great vocals, the harmony vocals worked very well.

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