Toneport UX2 acoustic guitar demo w/ condensor mic

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Toneport UX2 acoustic guitar demo w/ condensor mic

Post by Zoetrope » Fri May 05, 2006 8:36 am

Well, I got my Toneport UX2 and finally got a chance this morning to plug my Studio Projects C1 mic in, fire up the phantom power, and record an acoustic guitar demo.

The signal chain is:
<img src="http://www.takamine.com/pics/models/F360SD_sm.jpg" title="Takamine steel string F360SD"> to <a href="http://www.zzounds.com/a--3853/item--STUC1"><img src="http://media.zzounds.com/media/fit,100b ... 3d000a.jpg" title="C1"></a> to <a href="http://www.zzounds.com/a--3853/item--LINTPUX2"><img src="http://media.zzounds.com/media/fit,100b ... dd8847.jpg" title="ux2"></a> to USB port of Dell Dimension 2400 to Sony Vegas

Some random notes:
1) I recorded with Vegas instead of N-track because I only have the 16 bit N-track and wanted to use 24 bit recording, just for the heck of it.
2) I created a very minimal patch in Gear Box (comes with Toneport) with no effects or reverb, just a preamp (Vintage U.K.) with a little drive added to boost the signal
3) The signal to noise ratio of the UX2 is fantastic (about 90 db), but my basement is noisey thanks to computer noise and other random noise, bringing the noise floor up to about -60db. This is still an improvement over my internal sound card, which has a noise floor of about -60db before I even plug anything into it.
4) I didn't normalize or in anyway alter the recording. No compression or limiting or EQ or anything. I converted from wav to 192kbs MP3 in Sony Vegas.
5) I'm pretty happy with the tone I got, especially with the mic a foot out from where the neck meets the sound hole, which is where I usually put my PS-04 to record acoustic guitar. That spot usually works well for me. As you'll hear, I tried other mic positions for this demo, but the first one sounds best to my ear.
6) please excuse the sloppy playing, it was early morning and I was racing to get this done and get out the door. :oops:
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Post by Zoetrope » Fri May 05, 2006 11:00 am

By the way, that guitar is one of the ones that Takamine got sued for. It's a Martin D-28 clone. I didn't know much about guitars back when I bought it used about 20 years ago, just got lucky.
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Post by Lee » Fri May 05, 2006 11:09 am

Sounds awesome. The George Harrison part was sweet... oh wait, this isn't a song review. A bit on the bassy side for me, but nothing that a little EQ-ing couldn't correct. Very clean.

Do you use the Studio Projects C1 microphone for vox too?
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Post by tonyoci » Fri May 05, 2006 11:31 am

Sounds good to me though I have nothing to compare it too of course :D I remain very conflicted as you can see from my InSpire post.

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Post by Rick Jones » Fri May 05, 2006 11:40 am

Love the visual aids. :lol: Sounds great to me. I didn't hear any overbearing bass tone. Wonder what it's be like if you added a second mic a foot back from your right knee pointing toward the lower bout and panned both at 9 and 3 o'clock?
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Post by Zoetrope » Fri May 05, 2006 1:04 pm

Rick Jones wrote:Wonder what it's be like if you added a second mic a foot back from your right knee pointing toward the lower bout and panned both at 9 and 3 o'clock?
If I had a second C1 I'd give that a whirl. I do have a pair of small diaphram condensors, but they're omni's, so then you'd really be hearing my basement sing.

I think the bassy stuff Lee refers to is on the last test where I stuck the mic in front of the sound hole. It definitely got too bassy there. The other ones didn't seem bassy to me. I guess I'd hold off with EQ until it was in a mix, then see if there was a problem there.

I have used the C1 for vocals in the long distant past, but not much since I got the PS-02 and 04, since they are so damned easy and fun to use. But now I'm probably heading back in that direction. The C1 is great for vocals, even my croaking. It does take getting used to cause it picks up everything, so you have to use better mic technique and placement.

In the past I had to plug the C1 into my Art Tube MP preamp, then plug that into the soundblaster live sound card. Plugging into the UX2 is easier (no hunting behind computer) and the sound quality is far improved thanks to the better dynamic range / improved noise floor. If I could just get my computer to quiet down I'd really be cooking, but I could always set up the mic farther away from the computer.

Right now I've got my electric guitar and microKorg plugged into the UX2 full time, and a mic cord hanging nearby. Headphones are plugged in full time too. I look at that and say, "Hey, I want to jam!" That's a good thing. :wink:
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Post by Unstablxxx » Fri May 05, 2006 1:09 pm

Very nice sound. The combo of equipment really does a good job for acoustic.
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Post by Rick Jones » Fri May 05, 2006 1:26 pm

When I first joined, I recall someone had taken their pc apart and built it into a desk to make it quieter. Very ingenious. A singing basement? Wow! :lol:
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