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 Post subject: no idea how to set up my r16 with logic 8, or save to usb
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:54 am 
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Hello,
my band has recorded 16 minutes of audio with 10+ different tracks, we have saved it into the R16s SD Card, and am now trying to import the audio in Logic 8 studio. I have...
1. Installed the drivers
2. set the r16 to audio interface
3. Set to 44.1khz and 24 bit recording as the manual says too. (and chosen to record to .wav)
4. gone to preferences in logic and selected the R16
but i cannot seem to record anything into logic, what am i missing? its connected via USB cable, ill press record in logic and it will be recording, but nothing is being recorded, just a flat audio line.
do i need any other cables besides the USB one to record into logic from the interface? .
im a total beginner so it could be something very basic i am missing.

i also tried hooking the r16 to my 1tb external hard drive and saving the project on there, however it comes up with the error message 'file access error', in the manual it says to press exit and try again, but still nothing changes
the hard-drive is split into two partitions both for mac.

thank you for reading, any help you can give would be very much appreciated!


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 Post subject: Re: no idea how to set up my r16 with logic 8, or save to usb
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:18 am 
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Since you yourself said: "im a total beginner so it could be something very basic i am missing.", I shall suggest this:

Completely put aside using the R16 as an "audio interface" for now. Think of the R16 as purely a "standalone" "capture" device where you capture your band's instruments.

What you need to do now is EITHER:

1. Hook the R16 up to your computer via standard USB cable and when it "turns on" it will start up in "audio interface" mode. Do NOT hit the OK button. Use the arrow buttons to switch to "Card Reader" mode and then hit the OK button. Your computer will now recognize the SD card inside the R16 as a "hard drive" of sorts.
2. Pull the SD card out of the R16 and use a standard USB card reader to read the card. In my experience, if I have a bunch of .wav's to transfer over, this method is faster.

Regardless as to which method above you use:
Navigate around the folders until you see the particular project that you recorded to. Inside the "Audio" sub-folder will be your .wav files (some may be named "MONOxxx.wav" and possibly some will be named "STxxxx.wav". You need to drag these files to a folder on your hard drive.
Then you must launch Logic 8 Studio and walk through its process for creating a new song and then you will most likely either "import" the .wav files that you previously copied to your hard drive, or you'll drag them into the Logic 8 window onto tracks and Logic will point to them and know where they are. The process differs slightly between all the different Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) applications out there. Once you see how Logic handles the .wav files you'll be set for the future in terms of exactly where to copy them to. For example, you'll probably get into Logic FIRST, create a new "project" and once it's created on your hard drive, Logic will probably create a sub-folder called "Audio" (or similar) and THEN you'll copy the .wav files from the SD card to the folder that Logic expects them to be in.

Once the .wav files are "associated" with tracks in Logic 8 you can then start to really do some powerful stuff.
For this first song, I recommend that once you have all the "tracks" setup in Logic and everything is playing correctly, that you try to get your basic mix down in as simple a manner as possible as follows:

1. If Drums are stereo, then make sure Logic is using a stereo track. No panning necessary. If the waveform of the .wav file for the Drums looks kind of skinny and small, then I would "normalize" it so it's nice and fat and "hot" (i.e., loud without clipping).
2. Set the Bass pan to be C (center). Normalize if necessary.
3. Guitar(s), pan outward, say, to 30 or so either left or right (to get them away from the drums and bass).
4. Lead vocals pan center or slightly off center if you want.
5. Keys are usually stereo but you can still pan them (preferably away from the guitars).

Once you do this, and obviously adjust volumes (in my opinion starting with drums, then getting bass guitar blended and then the other instruments and finally the vocals), you should have a reasonably clean mix to work with.

Depending on how you recorded effects on the R16 your tracks will most likely be dry as a bone. Start playing around with Send/Return reverb in Logic. If you have a particular fast and robust computer, then you could conceivably just use Insert effects on each track and give each track a reverb effect to place the recording in a "room". The reason I like using a send/return bus for reverb is that then all the instruments and vocals are essentially in the same "room" and you just give varying degrees of "wetness" as to how MUCH reverb each track gets.

Once you get ALL that done, then you'll most likely drive yourself crazy with all the little knob tweaking you'll do to get things "just right" (and "just right" tends to be different for everybody...especially multiple band members...heh heh).

Best of luck!

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 Post subject: Re: no idea how to set up my r16 with logic 8, or save to usb
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:56 am 
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I may be interpreting incorrectly, but the way I read your post, it sounds as if you have already recorded your tracks on the R16. If that is the case, you do not need to use the interface because you already have your material recorded. All you need to do is import the tracks/files from the R16 into your DAW, and doing that does not require using the interface mode on the R16. It is simply a file transfer. Just follow Selb's directions, and you should be good.


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