R24 Combo Inputs TooTight

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R24 Combo Inputs TooTight

Post by Straydog » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:21 pm

My new R24 is making me nervous. When I try to unplug a 1/4" guitar cable from the combo connectors it is VERY tight. I am afraid that the tip will break off inside the unit and then I'll have BIG problems. Is this just the nature of the beast? Will it loosen up after some use? Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a certain make of cable that works best? Maybe someone that has used theirs for awhile can give me some insight. I've searched this forum and can't find much about it. :?: Thanks
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Re: R24 Combo Inputs TooTight

Post by mikethebass » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:20 pm

This is quite a well known problem, it seems to affect some inputs of some machines and can depend on the guitar lead you use.

After having a problem with my R16.
I don't use jack leads. I either use jack / XLR adaptors or Jack into a DI box, passive will do, and XLR / XLR from the DI box.
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Re: R24 Combo Inputs TooTight

Post by Straydog » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:58 pm

Thanks for that. I had a friend make me a 1/4" to xlr cable to use. My question now is , using the xlr input, does the Hi Z button still come into play or is it bypassed using xlr?
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Re: R24 Combo Inputs TooTight

Post by jamesr » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:07 pm

I've had my R24 for a couple years now, and have same issue plugging a 1/4" guitar cord in. When inserted til it stops (without forcing), the plug still looks like it could go in another 1/8 to 1/4". I had read a post where someone had forced theirs and broke a tip off inside, so decided not do that! With my plug "not going in all the way", the connection still works just fine. Xlr's go in as they should. Seems like a design flaw.
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Re: R24 Combo Inputs TooTight

Post by Straydog » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:02 am

Yep jamesr.....mine seems to go in OK but gettin' it out is a real struggle. I'm really afraid I'm gonna break the tip off. Sure don't want to do that! I'm looking for an adapter that I can leave in all the time.
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Re: R24 Combo Inputs TooTight

Post by zoniopoda omnicolor » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:42 am

Hi All,

OK, I've seen this topic come up again and again. And if you look around, it's not only with Zoom. I have an R8, and yes, the TS inputs are a bit tight. Lucky for me, not overly so (at least not yet...). Maybe this issue is purely mechanical. But I still wonder if a cleaner/lube might help.

One go-to fix i have for old scratchy pots, connections, and so forth is Caig DeoxIT D5. http://store.caig.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.188/.f. No doubt, some of you know D5. Safe on plastics too. I love it.

Sometimes, I will put a VERY thin film on a male connector itself, and work the jack in and out of the receptacle a few times. In other words, I would not spray into the hole. But placing controlled amounts of the D5 on the TS plug itself allows control. Like just spraying some onto a paper towel, wiping it on the plug, then only leaving the SMALLEST film (you can always do it again). I guess a Q-tip in the hole would work too, but can be a bit hard to see.

I have not had to do this on the Zoom, and don't know if it would help. But if I had this issue, I can see myself trying this. I mean, you don't want it TOO loose, but this business of actually pulling the tips off plugs? It's ridiculous.

What's anyone's thoughts on this idea?
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Re: R24 Combo Inputs TooTight

Post by Straydog » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:35 am

What's so ridiculous about it? I've read other reports of exactly that happening. I don't want to go through that mess. I have some D5 and will try it but on my Zoom it is REALLY tight...not just "a bit tight."
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Re: R24 Combo Inputs TooTight

Post by zoniopoda omnicolor » Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:00 am

Straydog wrote:
Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:35 am
What's so ridiculous about it? I've read other reports of exactly that happening.
Yeah, that is what I'm saying: it's ridiculous that the combo plug should be so tight that it can pull of a TS tip.

Well, if you try this, please post back - I am curious to know if it works.
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Re: R24 Combo Inputs TooTight

Post by Wulfraed » Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:31 am

One suggestion: Look for cables with a more "rounded" tip.

Someone once posted images of three different plugs. One had a tip that appeared to be two pieces: a cone sort of crimped to a cup (the cup being the detent part). That tip tended to pull apart at the crimp. The other two had one-piece tips, but one looked sort of: <|-|====== (almost 90deg edges when the detent fits). The least problematic was more: <>-|==== (where the detent sloped at almost the same angle as the front of the tip).


{The BOSS BR-800 didn't bother with combo jacks; it has four XLRs wired parallel to four TRS phone jacks; use one or the other per input -- the 600 had no XLR, just balanced TRS}
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