R24 - How do I create a project in 12/8 time?

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R24 - How do I create a project in 12/8 time?

Post by yodaspeak » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:13 pm

Can this be done? I see no obvious way to do this.

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Re: R24 - How do I create a project in 12/8 time?

Post by Wulfraed » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:24 pm

The closest is probably to set 6/4 and double the tempo (and remember that the measure count will be moving twice as fast too -- as each of your measures spans two of the device's)
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Re: R24 - How do I create a project in 12/8 time?

Post by yodaspeak » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:52 pm

Nice, thanks. I can do that.

Is there a way to set the signature at the project level? I can't seem to highlight it on the main screen.
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Re: R24 - How do I create a project in 12/8 time?

Post by Wulfraed » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:57 pm

While the tempo is needed to "fix" recordings, the time signature likely is only of concern by the rhythm section -- that's where the device itself needs to know the breakdown.

Compare: The R16 has no rhythm function, and has NO time signature entry -- only the metronome function with 1/4 to 8/4, and special 6/8 entry.
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Re: R24 - How do I create a project in 12/8 time?

Post by yodaspeak » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:00 pm

I have been away from the R24 for a while, now I see. I am building some drumming patterns and I am setting the time sig there. Thanks again.
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Re: R24 - How do I create a project in 12/8 time?

Post by Wulfraed » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:22 am

Just for further datum points:

The HD16 -- which has a builtin MIDI-type drum machine -- only accepts time signatures of 1/4 to 8/4. Time signatures and tempo are stored with rhythm patterns; this allows the time signature to change with changes in patterns programmed into the "arrangement". So not even the common 6/8 can be directly defined

The BOSS BR-600 allows time signatures of (1-8)/(1,2,4,8). I expect the BR-800 to be similar as it has the same rhythm playback feature, but lacks pads and on-device pattern programming (only arrangement of patterns can be programmed on the device -- a computer based rhythm editor* is available for setting new patterns on both models). Again, time signatures go with "patterns" and patterns are strung together in "arrangements" (what I think the HD16 calls a "rhythm song")

None of these would support 12/8 directly. (Heh: I don't think I'd want to see something in 8/1 time)



* A real shame -- since the BR-800 has a dot-matrix LCD that would have supported the grid type pattern editor (select row for drum type, scroll across to point in measure(s), enter hit and strength).
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