Phantom Power on R24

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Phantom Power on R24

Post by mikethebass » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:51 am

I've read somewhere I think that unlike my R16 an R24 can have phantom power on all 8 inputs. Tracks 9 - 16 and 17 -24 if I remember correctly.

Can anyone confirm this and have they used this facility?
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Re: Phantom Power on R24

Post by Wulfraed » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:18 am

Tracks don't matter -- phantom power is provided by the pre-amps located with the input jacks themselves.

However (manual page 10) only INPUTS 3-8 can have phantom power.

NORMAL mode only applies phantom power to INPUT 5&6; see manual page 104 for instructions on how to activate the pairs 3&4 and 7&8 (I believe these are still affected by the master phantom power switch; the menu only controls which of the three pairs of inputs are being controlled by the master).
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Re: Phantom Power on R24

Post by mikethebass » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:40 pm

Thanks Wulfraed,

I've been considering buying another recorder as a spare. I really want a stand alone recorder as my experience with the R16 suggests it's the most trouble free way of making location recordings.

I can't find anything reasonably priced here in the UK that will record more than 8 inputs at once.

I'm not particularly interested in the R24 built in drum machine.

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Re: Phantom Power on R24

Post by Jim_Fogle » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:00 pm

Mike,

Take a look at the Allen & Heath ICE-16: http://www.allen-heath.com/ahproducts/ice-16/
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Re: Phantom Power on R24

Post by mikethebass » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:57 am

Hello Jim,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately I don't have a mixer with line outs.
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Re: Phantom Power on R24

Post by Wulfraed » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:34 am

mikethebass wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:57 am
Hello Jim,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately I don't have a mixer with line outs.
And if you did -- the question of phantom power wouldn't come up <G>

The ICE-16 page emphasizes "line level" (which may even mean professional line-level, which is some 10+dB hotter than consumer level). So likely doesn't have enough gain for microphone level, much less phantom power on those inputs.
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Re: Phantom Power on R24

Post by hoodoo voodoo » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:27 am

The specs, pros and cons of the ICE-16 are outlined here: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/allen-heath-ice-16
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Re: Phantom Power on R24

Post by Wulfraed » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:26 am

And about a third of the way down is
the ICE 16 outputs to a semi-professional device will result in signals being about 8dB hotter than the user might typically expect.
... close to my estimate of 10dB given above.
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Re: Phantom Power on R24

Post by Jim_Fogle » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:59 pm

I can't find anything reasonably priced here in the UK that will record more than 8 inputs at once.
Other than the ICE-16, neither can I.
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