Guitar high frequencies missing when recording DI through R16 to Cubase

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Guitar high frequencies missing when recording DI through R16 to Cubase

Post by pettuli » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:27 pm

Hi. I recorded electric guitar input direct, and noticed all the sound from around 6 khz onwards is totally missing. My reference songs had guitar all the way up to almost 20 khz, and the difference definitely could be heard. I used the 1st input with Hi-Z on.

Is this normal? Would a DI box help here? Is the R16's Hi-Z not "high" enough?

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Re: Guitar high frequencies missing when recording DI through R16 to Cubase

Post by Wulfraed » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:06 pm

For a traditional electric guitar, that's around the normal cut-off for the pick-ups... And even then, the top two octaves (3k-6k, 1.5k-3k) are harmonics...

https://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/sho ... ency-range

This is one reason for the differences between electric guitar amps and acoustic guitar amps; acoustic amps tend to handle a wider frequency spread...

Though you might want to also check the track parameters (EQ) and any effect that may have been active.
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Re: Guitar high frequencies missing when recording DI through R16 to Cubase

Post by pettuli » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:22 am

Thank you! My reference song was the Beatles' Dear Prudence. The guitar intro is in same key as my song and consists of only electric guitar finger-picked. Do you have a clue why it plays all the way up to 20 khz? Could it be because of miced amp vs my DI?
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Re: Guitar high frequencies missing when recording DI through R16 to Cubase

Post by Wulfraed » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:07 am

I don't have the experience to say...

Too many variables -- different model guitar (hollow body vs solid affecting harmonic resonance), different pick-ups (humbuckers/non-humbucker), different strings, height of strings above pick-ups, even different cables (a poor cable could have frequency specific attenuation, especially is a long run). Recording engineer applying heavy high-frequency EQ gain to boost harmonics.
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Re: Guitar high frequencies missing when recording DI through R16 to Cubase

Post by pettuli » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:23 am

Ok, thank you.
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Re: Guitar high frequencies missing when recording DI through R16 to Cubase

Post by Jim_Fogle » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:48 pm

One thing you can try is to swap the top, three, wound strings you're using with unwound, lighter gauge strings. Then tune the three replacement strings an octave higher. This is called high strung or Nashville tuning. Wikipedia has an article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville ... _strung%29. :guitar: Note that the first reference listed below the article is a well researched and written pdf file by Daddario strings. Daddario offers high strung string sets for both acoustic and electric guitars. :book:

Here are step-by-step instructions (with graphics!): https://www.wikihow.com/Tune-Your-Guita ... lle-Tuning

You may not want to use your favorite guitar or permanently keep your guitar tuned this way because high strung tuning puts a tremendous strain on the guitar neck and body. The strings may also rattle because the nut slots are sized to fit the original set of strings. :metal:
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