The R8 is still great

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The R8 is still great

Post by Beatnick » Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:21 am

As an all in one recorder there's not many out there that compares for the price. As much as I love the sounds on the G3n, I really prefer to just plug into my R8 and play. I really am a bedroom player and don't need a lot of pedals on my floor. I can definitely find the sound I want out of the R8 and I don't really do a lot of footswitching, but even if I want to I can program the footswitch to change patches (one thing I sometimes do is create a clean patch and a distortion patch and then alternate between them within a bank so it's easy to footswitch between them). Recording and even creating loops is fairly easy. One thing I really like is being able to create a custom sound for each song. I don't really have to worry about running out of patches. I went through this with the PS04 for years, I'd say I want more effects and buy a new pedal, only to go back to using just the PS04 a few weeks later. It looks like I'm doing the same thing with the R8, but the R8 does give me more freedom than the PS04, not just with the extra tracks, but with the ability to create loops and the footswitch as well. It's just a lot easier for me to just use one all in one unit. Just felt like throwing my opinion out there.
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Re: The R8 is still great

Post by Jim_Fogle » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:45 am

I was shocked to be reminded the Zoom R8 was released during May, 2011. It just doesn't seem possible it was released more than seven years ago. The Zoom MRS-8 it replaced was only available from 2007 to 2011 or four years. Unfortunately I will not be surprised if Zoom does not create a replacement for the R8 as the market seems to be heading away from desktop digital recording studios.

A Guitar Center opened nearby last week. I had to look a long time before discovering where the digital recorders were located. They are in a display case underneath the cash register drawer. All are handhelds but in addition to Zoom they sell TASCAM, Roland and Sony. They have several Zoom handhelds but only one model each from the other brands. The store didn't have any desktop recorders like the L12 or L20 on display.

I prefer desktop recorders over handhelds. Desktop recorders have more room for controls so they don't depend on menus and sub menus as much as handhelds must. Handhelds are great for capturing "moments" but so are smartphones. Neither tool help me to focus my mind on mixing or recording.

The newer desktop devices like the L12 or L20 are great tools for bands as they can capture rehearsals and performances while also acting as a front-of-house mixer. However they require the use of a lot of microphones and an external public or power amplifier. None of that is very useful to the "singer/songwriter" or one-man band wanting to record himself or herself while building a song or idea project one track at a time.

I'm very surprised, but glad, Zoom provide a R8 firmware upgrade to fix the long standing SD card formatting issue. It's proof that Zoom still values the product. The R8 is great but the MRS-8 is better! :tap:
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Re: The R8 is still great

Post by Beatnick » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:20 pm

Are the newer Zoom handhelds multitrack? I did like the PS04 for the portiablity. Now I do prefer the desktop R8. I do not like computer recording, but I don't mind doing the final mix on computer using something like audacity.

I did download the manual to the MRS-8 and I see pluses and minuses. The biggest plus is having separate bass and drum tracks you can program like on the PS04 instead of the samples like on the R8. It looked like it had effects similar to the PS04, I do think the R8 has better effects and amp models than the PS04. Also the MRS-8 didn't look like it had a footswitch jack like the R8 either. I didn't notice if you could do looping on the MRS-8 either, but maybe you can, I might not have noticed it. Without actually buying one and doing a direct comparison, I think the R8 has a little more to offer for me, but I would like to have that drum and bass machine built into the R8 instead of creating drum samples.
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Re: The R8 is still great

Post by Jim_Fogle » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:52 pm

You mentioned some of the differences between the MRS-8 and R8. Having access to both the drum and bass machines is why I prefer the MRS-8 over the R8.

What really, really miss though is the 24 bit depth. Boo, hiss, hiss! I also miss the lack of phantom power, dual built-in microphones and the ability to use SD cards up to 32 GB in size. It would also be fun to try the surface controller feature. However I've created workarounds for everything but recording in 24 bit depth.

The Zoom Handy Recorders series are multitrack recorders but their features seem to be more for supporting and enhancing video production than audio production. They range from one stereo track to (I think) six tracks.
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