myspace vs. soundclick

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What site is more beneficial for a musician's exposure?

myspace
5
71%
soundclick
1
14%
other (must be a website)?
1
14%
 
Total votes: 7

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Post by Lee » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:56 pm

Riffmaster wrote:...i even had one girl go to the trouble of msg'ing me just to say "you suck". I was honored to delete her :lol:
I just deleted a comment from the other day that said the guitar playing was great but that my lyrics suck arse. :lol: He got deleted AND blocked! Felt good too... :twisted:
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Post by monty » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:50 pm

I think for getting folks to listen Myspace is better(way more peeps),but I like the unlimited tunes option in Sundclick.Plus there are fewer screw ups.
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Post by Lee » Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:55 pm

Plus! You can "deep link" the player and your measly four songs for free.

<code>REMOVED BECAUSE CRACKS BROKE IT</code>

Oh, and did I mention that the number of plays is also screwed up quite often? :lol:
Then again, I need to start adding some new friends again, eh?
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Post by The Cracks » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:04 pm

Edit: Comment removed - joke not funny to other poster - :cry:
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Post by The Cracks » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:06 pm

Edit: Joke told already.
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Post by Lee » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:26 pm

The Cracks wrote:Edit: Now there are three of them playing and it sounds pretty cool.
It sounds like crap and now I regret posting it. Thanks.
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Post by The Cracks » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:36 am

Lee wrote:<code>REMOVED BECAUSE CRACKS BROKE IT</code>
:hilarious: - Lee, even when you are mad you are funny as hell. Didn't mean to offend you. I was just having fun with what I thought was you having fun. (insert icon with shrugging shoulders here.)

I was telling someone recently that Lee never upsets me no matter what he says (so far). He reminds me of a dear Uncle I had who made me laugh even when he was being dead serious. It was in his colorful expressions - the twinkle in his eyes. Same with Lee - minus the eyes bit.

p.s. I suppose the one good thing that came out of this is that I exposed the weak spot of deep linking. Don't like it? Just quote it about 10 times, it will go away.
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Post by Howard » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:29 am

Lee,

I can't use myspace because I'm on dialup, so I have no personal experience with that. As far as soundclick goes, I've moved away from them due to advertising and other issues. I marked "other" because I don't think either is exclusively best. Use them and all the rest. Your audience is bombarded many impressions each day. Make your music one of those impressions. I also voted "other" because I have seen musicians achieve success on two other websites. They didn't do it with free spaces or clicks.

First of all, I think it pays to have your own website. Web hosting is inexpensive these days, compared with what we spend on music gear. I have gotten gigs by having my own website, and having it listed in local business directories. Live playing is my interest, so it is working for me. In that sense, the website pays for itself.

As to web site companies, I know two local musicians and one group who have had success using bandzoogle for their website. They each have cd's to sell, so I think that helps, and I'll tell you why in a minute. People have also done well with cdbaby for selling cd's and promoting their work.

Bandzoogle is not my first choice for a website provider. If you pm or email me (address on my website, link in signature - and I prefer direct email to pm's - but will accept either), I'll tell you why bandzoogle is not my personal first choice. One advantage with bandzoogle is their promotion. Their websites are complete automated music display and promotion machines, with mailing lists, guestbooks, etc.. "By musicians for musicians." And they are quite responsive to contact messages, and seem to want to keep you up and running well. If you do well, they do well. Cdbaby has similar advantages in their promotion features. Also "by musicians for musicians". They know what you need and are willing to deliver.

The best formula for success in music that I've heard is this:

1. Play out often and develop a local fan base.
2. Record a cd and make it available when you play out.
3. Go on tour, play outside your local area, and develop regional fans.
4. Promote your playing, tours, and cd by all means available.
5. Personally respond to your listening public.

We all have the tools to make such a cd. If you go this route, you need a cd that sounds like you sound when you play out so people can take you home with them. If I were interested in playing out more than I do already, I would probably make such a cd. Some use playing out to promote their commercially produced cd which doesn't sound like their live sound. That's ok too. One supports the other.

It looks like to summarize the above I'd say: Make a cd, play live, promote, respond. This goes beyond the original question, but the poll allowed for "other" and this is "other".

That's it from me.

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Post by tonyoci » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:43 am

Howard MySpace has been wildly popular in changing your traditional approach in one small area.

The MySpace approach that has made million sellers for a few bands and decent careers for others is

1) Create a buzz on MySpace
2) Record songs and release for free on MySpace
3) Setup medium size gigs based on your significant fan base
4) Hold back the CD until there is a real fervour for it
5) Keep playing live
6) Release that CD and sell a load
7) Get signed to a major record company

Here you either become corporate or you keep promoting your myspace identity by releasing exclusive stuff etc.

The Artic Monkey's have become major stars this way, The Click Five have also done very well and there are others. There are a lot of mid level successes also who are succesfully touring and selling a few records they wouldn't have done otherwise.

The key obviously is playing live.
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Post by Lee » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:10 pm

Howard wrote:Make a cd, play live, promote, respond. This goes beyond the original question, but the poll allowed for "other" and this is "other".
Yeah, but it was followed by "(must be a website)". :lol: I'll let you slide though Howard. :^:
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The Cracks wrote:Don't like it? Just quote it about 10 times, it will go away.
The Cracks wrote:Don't like it? Just quote it about 10 times, it will go away.
The Cracks wrote:Don't like it? Just quote it about 10 times, it will go away.
The Cracks wrote:Don't like it? Just quote it about 10 times, it will go away.
The Cracks wrote:Don't like it? Just quote it about 10 times, it will go away.
The Cracks wrote:Don't like it? Just quote it about 10 times, it will go away.
The Cracks wrote:Don't like it? Just quote it about 10 times, it will go away.
The Cracks wrote:Don't like it? Just quote it about 10 times, it will go away.
The Cracks wrote:Don't like it? Just quote it about 10 times, it will go away.
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Post by Howard » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:23 pm

tonyoci wrote:Howard MySpace has been wildly popular in changing your traditional approach in one small area.
Lee wrote:Yeah, but it was followed by "(must be a website)".
Looks like I may have stepped on some toes. I really didn't mean to offend. I think perhaps I should have come out in favor of myspace or be prepered for some flack.

Next time, I'll try to keep my mouth (fingers) shut. Maybe I misinterpreted:

"What site is more beneficial for a musician's exposure?
myspace
soundclick
other (must be a website)?"

which I took literally. I should have read it as:
"What site besides a real one that you make is more beneficial for a musician's exposure?"
or"
"Which of these is more beneficial for a musician's exposure?"

Then I probably would have said myspace, because it gets you more exposure. Or maybe it was the "other" which I should have taken as:
"other (must be a website other than your own)?"

For sure then, I would have picked myspace. It seems a good place to promote almost anything.

Next time I'll read the directions (you know I just hate to read directions).
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Post by tonyoci » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:29 pm

No offense here, your sequence was true a few years ago and still today in many cases, but MySpace has changed it for some.
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Post by The Cracks » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:17 pm

You're A-O-K Lee. :^:
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Post by Howard » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:22 pm

tonyoci wrote:sequence was true a few years ago
Once again, I am reminded I am behind the times. Anyone ever heard of that new 8-track you can play in your car? ... just kidding

But to look to the future - well, let's post those speculations in another thread...

apologies for getting on a soapbox of some kind and way off topic...

If I could re-vote...

never mind
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Post by Tonto2 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:16 am

What site is more beneficial for a musician's exposure?

Although I am not a fan of MySpace (at all), I'd have to say it does provide users a great deal of potential exposure.
But like anything... it's got to be utilized effectively.

Having said that... even though the advertising seems to have increased
on SoundClick, it is a much nicer, more user-friendly site to use for
posting music and listening to songs posted by others.

I'll cast our 1 vote for MySpace (given the Poll Question) then I'll go
search out some more good music on SoundClick! :wink:
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