MS-100BT: Important info & Helpful Cheat Sheets

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MS-100BT: Important info & Helpful Cheat Sheets

Post by stubbsonic » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:26 am

This post includes current info about the marvelous MS-100BT pedal & the StompShare app. I've also added a link to a simple cheat-sheet I made for operating the pedal, and a link to a spreadsheet that contains info (and ratings) for all 217 of the included modules and add-ons.

I bought my first MS-100BT in mid-2015 and a second one a year later. This pedal is impressively versatile, has plenty of "character" and does most things very well. It's also a good problem solver. The MS-100BT is the only pedal in the MS series that includes all bass AND guitar amps/dist/fx, plus plus synths and other general purpose modules. This makes the MS-100BT a good all-around choice for a home studio or multi-instrumentalist.
The one drawback for me with the MS-100BT is that it is prone to picking up RFI in some situations.

IMPORTANT INFO ABOUT MS-100BT & STOMPSHARE STATUS

Both the MS-100BT and the StompShare app are officially discontinued and are no longer supported. As of 2017, the MS-100BT is still available on some retail sites, so you can still buy the pedal and use the free app to load it with free added effects. The StompShare app has received at least one maintenance update since it was discontinued, but we can't know when Zoom will abandon that software. I recommend you install the add-ons you want before that door closes.

The current pedal firmware version is 1.30 and is still available for download at the Zoom site under "discontinued products".

The StompShare app allows you to read about, listen to audio examples, install a temporary demo, and/or install add-on modules to your MS-100BT. There are a total of 116 add-ons in the store, and you can install up to 92 of them. There are some gems in there, so it is well worth your time & effort to pick ones you might use. Originally, there was a mix of free and In-App-Purchase add-ons, but after some app update, all the add-ons became FREE! You must update to the latest version of the StompShare app, then open the settings and click on "Restore Purchases".

OPERATIONS CHEAT SHEET

Here's a one-page (2-sided) cheatsheet I made that shows all the pedal's operational functions. It's a pdf that you can view/download from here:

http://www.jonstubbsmusic.com/misc/MS-1 ... TSHEET.pdf

EFFECT LIST SPREADSHEET

I've also created a spreadsheet (with a few sub sheets) that includes an organized set of descriptions & notes for all the different modules in the pedal and the StompShare app. It's similar to what Zoom puts in their documentation, with references to the emulation gear, functions and settings. But this list can be sorted into the order they appear in the pedal, or by the order they appear in the app, or sort by alphabetical order, or by your personal rating, etc. It's not a complete listing, some modules only have superficial information. I'm sharing it as a starting point, and you can edit it to meet your needs. Here's a link to the zip of the xlsx file.

If you have any ideas for how to improve the sheet, please post in this thread.

http://www.jonstubbsmusic.com/misc/MS-1 ... O.xlsx.zip

Also, I don't have a google account, but if someone wanted to create a google spreadsheet to share, that's fine with me.

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Re: MS-100BT: Important info & Helpful Cheat Sheets

Post by Jim_Fogle » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:06 pm

Stubbsonic,

Welcome to the forum! Great first post. I don't have a Zoom MS-100BT stomp pedal but I'm sure there are some forum members that do have one.

Thank you for taking time to share your spreadsheet and MS-100BT thoughts.
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Post by stubbsonic » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:10 pm

Thanks, Jim. I look forward to chatting about the MS-100BT with anyone who has one or is thinking about getting one.

The spreadsheet is still a work in progress, and after I've filled it out more, I'll post an updated version (probably mid july 2017).

For me, the value in this process has been in auditioning each module, and getting to know the range of settings and personalities of the effects. For example, I went through the reverbs and found substantial differences between the modules. Some very diffuse (smooth) and some very grainy (where you can hear all the different individual delay "taps"). This let me rate the ones that are the most pleasant and flag the ones that are too messy for me. With a couple of the reverbs, I found that rolling down the HiDMP or TONE made a reverb much more useable.

Another interesting comparison was with the pitch shift and synth modules. There are different combinations of TRACKING SPEED, TRACKING ACCURACY, DYNAMICS and SOUND QUALITY. There are huge differences in those qualities amongst the modules.
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Post by stubbsonic » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:56 pm

I've updated the spreadsheet to include better information about the reverbs and delays and changed the rating system to 1-5 (like the familiar stars system).
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Post by Zoetrope » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:09 am

Thanks for posting all this info.
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Post by stubbsonic » Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:39 pm

You're welcome! I hope some MS-100BT user(s) will find it helpful.

By the time you get 200 modules installed on the unit, it can be tedious to sift through what's there. Having some go-to' modules is useful.
I also have a couple starter chains-- where I have a particular order of effects, then can swap out modules as needed.
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Post by stubbsonic » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:16 am

I'd love to see a "Pro" version of the MS-100BT-- but without the BT. Have ALL modules always included in the firmware-- and added modules in later versions of the firmware.

It should have better shielding from RFI, optional balanced line outs, both stereo line ins, and a mono-high-z input, some additional signal routing options, 4 switch pedal ins, and one expression.

It's a great product even with it's flaws. It's a shame to see it abandoned for less versatile boxes. The quality of the effects is staggering.
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Post by stubbsonic » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:10 pm

Zoom recently released a maintenance update to Stomp Share app. The release notes mentioned bug fixes.

I'm not in a position to test it, as reloading all those modules is time consuming, and that's what I'd be forced to do, in order to test it.

There aren't any new modules (no surprise there).

If anyone has an opportunity to test Stomp Share with an MS-100BT and a 32-bit iPad, please post results on this thread.
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Post by NucleusX » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:58 am

I had a quick look and tried to update it on my ipod device, but i got a message saying i
needed at-least iOS 8.0 to proceed. I couldn't being on 6.1 and an older gen apple device.
Honestly, i don't think we're missing much, unless there's new features in it, but my guess
is that Zoom released it straight after making all the FX there free recently, and just
removed the purchase system in the app. Also curious to hear from those that have tried.
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Post by stubbsonic » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:49 am

As long as you have all the add-on modules you want installed, there's no reason to update the app. If you would like to "max out" your pedal, you could see if someone would let you borrow their iOS 8+ device for a few hours. I think if you just prioritize the ones you want most, you should get them all on.
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Post by NucleusX » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:43 am

They where maxed out a long time ago soon after I first bought my MS-100BT's. I bought up every single paid effect that's
available at their StompShare store, and acquired all the free ones. I've filled all 192 module slots. I had access to more from
the StompShare store than the pedals could fit, so i had to pick which ones i didnt want most, and thankfully it wasn't that many.
Then OCD set in, and found myself deleting every effect from the pedals, and reloading them from the store in a particular
sequence on all my MS-100BT's, so they all matched as you scroll through the FX on the pedal itself when selecting an effect.
I love these pedals. With a few, the versatility and selection density on them can substantially reduce a pedalboards foot-print.
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Post by stubbsonic » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:12 am

[Edit:} I updated the opening post to include the info about the slot count for add-ons.


...So the next thing I did was went through all the demos and made a list. I put all the questionable ones lower on the list, and some of the ones that I thought were bad or dumb or unmusical, I left off. I ended up getting everything I wanted plus a few more.

[EDIT: deleted confusing content for clarity. I had misunderstood the memory limits for add-ons]

Do you have some stand out favorite amp models? Favorite combinations? Tricks?
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Post by NucleusX » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:10 pm

In total, the MS-100BT stores 192 effect modules. Its pre-loaded with 100 effects/amps. The pre-loaded effects are
permanent, and cannot be deleted from the pedal, so that leaves 92 empty effect modules for the user to store/delete
from the Stompshare store. If you read my last post, you'll see that I said I wasn't able to store everything from the
store. The size of each effect shouldn't be a concern, as all effects downloaded from the store seem to require "1" effect
module only, no more, no less, regardless of the effect. I'm certain I haven't missed anything, as Zoom hasn't updated
the StompShare store with new effects for quite some time now. Completely happy with how i have mine now, it was a
refinement process for sure tho. I have the parallel reverb installed, its a good one to have. As for a favourite effect or
amp, i don't really have one, they're all useful to me in different ways ! One thing i like to do is add in 1 or 2 exciters at
specific points along the signal chain to clean things up a bit, each with bass and treble set below 20. The Line Selector
effect can be handy for some extra output routing possibilities in mono or stereo. The combinations are endless really.
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Post by stubbsonic » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:52 am

For some reason, I had completely missed that 92 add-on limit number. I had assumed that "memory full" was data and not slots. It's funny in hindsight to see that I loaded 90 effects and only missed the limit by two. There weren't any of the remaining that I cared enough about, but I guess in the future, if I want to add two more, I can.

You can see my faves in the spreadsheet, (I rated them as 5s). The acoustic guitar sim has proven very useful for the work I'm doing. I also like some of the warmer distortion pedals. (TS-types). I'm very impressed with the good reverbs (though there are some stinkers). I'm also very impressed with the variety of distortion colors that this has. I mentioned in another thread that the tremolo is smooth and lovely (compared to the trem in my Pod HD500 which doesn't sound nearly as good).
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